Retrocausality Torus Interview B

Interviewee: Subject ███████

Interviewer A: Dr ███████
Interviewer B: Asst. Researcher ███████

Observing interview, ex camera: Dr. ███████, PhD in Psychology, Dr ██████████, PhD in Neurology

Foreward:
Following the 3rd trial, Subject was debriefed according to standard operating procedure.
Unknown to the subject, passive polygraph recording was in effect. Note: Subject emotionally labile and somewhat paranoid.


Subject: Please tell me you remember what we discussed.

Interviewer A: What's that

Subject: Which trial is this?

Interviewer A: The third one, why?

Subject: The third one?

Interviewer A: Which one is it according to you?

Subject: This is the nineteenth trial.

Interviewer A: That's not possible

Subject: Let me save us some time.

Interviewer A: By all means.

Subject: You have identified and contained SCP-████ and SCP-████?

Interviewer A: …I cant discuss…

Subject: …then there's something you can check. I know you don't believe me, but the last time we did this, we found something strange having to do with…is it…the Kasmere forces?

(Asst. Researcher ███████ confers with Dr. ███████)

Interviewer A: (to interviewer B) no, go ahead.

Interviewer B: Do you mean the Casimir force?

Subject: Yes. That's it. The artifact affects it.

Interviewer B: How would you know something like that?

Subject: Because I overheard you talking about it.

Interviewer B: When would that have been?

Subject: You don't remember. It's after the 17th trial. I want you to understand something. You keep thinking this thing affects my memories. That I'm mistaken. If that's the case, how could I know about SCP-████ and SCP-████? Once you double-check the effect I'm talking about, how will you explain that?

Interviewer A: If you…

Subject: How will you explain that? Will you evolve a theory to cover that? You see, there are only two possibilities: either I'm crazy. Or I'm not.

Interviewer A: We're still trying to ascertain…

Subject:Once you're convinced, we'll talk. Until then I'm done. Take me to my quarters or lock me up or let me go.


(Interview suspended.)

Several experiments performed using D-class personnel, immediately terminated
after activating the artifact. Subject's experimental predictions confirmed.

Note: Shortly thereafter, Asst. Researcher ███████ (who had assisted with this interview)
performed an unsanctioned experiment with the artifact, using himself as a subject.

No personnel could be located who had afterwards spoken to him, though it is known that
he engaged in two hours of research using the Foundation database relating to historical
and cultural events, at which point he placed a phone call to his mother.

While the subject of the conversation can only be conjectured, we know the call lasted
less than two minutes. Shortly thereafter, Asst. Researcher ███████ committed suicide.

(Interview resumed 30 hours later.)


Subject: Where's your assistant?

Interviewer: Reassigned.

Subject: Well?

Interviewer: Well what?

Subject: You don't look like you've slept much.

Interviewer: What is it that…that you'd have me believe?

Subject: It's funny, every time we talk, I keep expecting to remember.

Interviewer: I'm asking you again, what is it you'd have me believe?

Subject: In the twelve weeks I've been working with the artifact, [note: it had only been one week since experiments had begun] I've seen the Foundation change, the president change, the layout of the globe change, I've seen you change…you look better without the beard, incidentally…it's all gone.

Interviewer: What's…

Subject: The world I knew is gone. It's been revised and revised and revised now nineteen times. I'm lucky we still speak the same language. Listen to me: the only reason I agree to keep being your guinee pig is that I don't have a history any more. Or I'm outside of history. I don't recognize my sister, the kids I never had, the wife I never married. I'm a ghost with no past. I'm … anchorless. Its just possible I might find my world again if I keep using…the machine.

Interviewer: We're not letting you near that thing unless and until you start making…

Subject: It doesn't matter.

Interviewer: Why?

Subject: You keep changing. Everything does. And I stay the same. I'm the only one who remembers. You're not really Dr.
██████████, at least not the one I knew.

(At this time, the following exchange takes place covertly between Interviewer and Observer ███████ via teletype.)


Interviewer: Could be Capgras syndrome 1, with attendant Cassandra complex2

Observer: Possibly

Interviewer: Recommendations?

Observer: Don't contradict them. We can always
try █████████████████████████████ if they show no
signs of improvement.

Interviewer: And their unexplained knowledge?

Observer: Cryptesthesia3 and confabulation, possibly.
                                Cases like theirs exist in the literature.

Interviewer: And Asst. Researcher ██████████'s suicide?

Observer: Folie a deux.4


Interviewer: …what do you mean?

Subject: What do I mean. What do I mean? How's this: if you examine Dr ████████, you'll find signs of
████████████. You're in for a big surprise from him in the next couple days. Now how could I know that?

Interviewer: That's absurd. Can you account for the unexplained knowledge you're in possession of?

Subject: I've assumed this…alternity has unrolled slower that the last one. If things haven't changed too much, effectively this makes me able to anticipate the short-term future. Given that where I just came from had a nineteenth trial, while here…

Interviewer: That's not going to wash. I'm asking you directly: are you being briefed by parties unknown? Are you being coerced by another agency? Are you acting under the express orders of another agency not to divulge what you know? As I've said, if…

Subject: You can't play me. Get it through your head. The artifact is going to ██████████████████████. ███████████████. ███. ████. █████████████████████████. It's a matter of weeks.

Interviewer: Tell me why, if you're so…

Subject: Doctor, let me enlighten you: ██████████, ████████████. ███████████████? ███? ████. ██████. ████████████. ████████████████████████████████████████. ██████████████████. ████. █████████████████████████. ██, ████████████████████, ███████████████. ███. ██████████████. ████████████████████████. █████████. █████████. ████████████. ████████████. █████. ████.
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(Interview was at this point unexpectedly terminated by authority of O5 administrator ███████.)


Closing statement:
Polygraph results indicate responses are not consciously deceptive.

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